[R] Positron as a tool

[Stephen H. Dawson, DSL]

The gap I see is in the database engine monitoring.

MySQL has discontinued development of Workbench. Percona Monitoring and 
Management seems nice, but not as integrated in IDE as I would prefer.

A Positron tool proposed by the vendor is positioned as a data science 
tool. The ability to know if any R work is killing the DB by overloading 
it is still a missing piece of the IDE picture without running multiple 
code monitoring sections in watch windows.


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On 6/28/24 11:41, avi.e.gross using gmail.com wrote:
> Just to be clear, Denis, I am not in any way associated with anybody or anything and just read about it on a news feed not from POSIT directly.
>
> I am aware it is based on existing functionality and have used possibly similar editors for other languages. I did try possibly one touted by Microsoft years ago (perhaps what you are referring to) but felt no need to keep using it at the time. What I am interested in is hearing from others who have opinions, perhaps after having tried it.
>
> And there is a trend I have noted where some development environments have been moving towards multiple language support including at times integration between languages. RSTUDI, itself, has been supporting a number of languages besides R and that is one reason it changed names for the company. What they are offering now, and I am not clear what they are adding or changing, looks like an attempt to evolve along such lines.
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> Python versions typically have shipped with a fairly rudimentary IDLE program you can use as a sort of editor. Plenty of other add-ons are available independently. As noted, RSTUDIO now is such an add-on for python too.
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> R, as far as I know, has not taken that route and you get just the language alone and the community is free to use anything else they want. RSTUDIO is one of many but arguably, quite a few here have used it. Many versions are currently FREE and some paid versions may have more functionality. I am wondering if this new product is going to change things such as fee structures or even eventually replace ...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dénes Tóth <toth.denes using kogentum.hu>
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2024 7:03 AM
> To: avi.e.gross using gmail.com; r-help using r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R] Positron as a tool
>
> Hi Avi,
>
> I am not sure that the R-help mailing list is a suitable channel for
> advertising R-related tools... But given you mentioned Positron
> (https://github.com/posit-dev/positron), which is based on VSCode, it is
> worth calling out that a free, open-source, community-maintained, very
> feature rich R extension
> (https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/r) already exists in VS
> Code for years.
>
> Regards,
> Denes
>
>
> On 6/28/24 07:10, avi.e.gross using gmail.com wrote:
>> This is just an FYI based on a news item I saw tonight.
>>    
>> There have been discussions on what editors or environments people can use
>> when working with R and I personally have mostly been using versions of
>> RSTUDIO and lately for both R and python. As often noted, RSTUDIO is a
>> product of a company, currently still largely free and they have some tweaks
>> that can cause issues.
>>    
>> The news article mentions a future project as described below, if anyone is
>> interested, that may be a nice alternative similar (and based on) what some
>> use for programming in multiple languages. Again, I am noty suggesting
>> anyone use it, albeit I plan on trying it out when it is a bit further
>> along.
>>    
>> The current name seems to be Positron, to sort of go with the new name of
>> the company behind RSTUDIO, which is now Posit. Nothing to do with Asimov's
>> Positronic Brains, LOL!
>>    
>> Here is a reference if anyone is interested.
>>    
>> https://www.infoworld.com/article/3715702/maker-of-rstudio-launches-new-r-an
>> d-python-ide.html
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