[R] reduced set of alternatives in package mlogit
Christopher Desjardins
cdesjard at umn.edu
Fri Apr 1 16:54:47 CEST 2016
Hi Jose,
You're referring to your response variable when you're saying it's missing
some of the choices, right? Are your response choices ever known or do they
just occur with extremely low frequency? Either way, I think the mlogit
package would be inappropriate for you. I imagine you would have much
better luck using MCMCpack or writing a model with rstan or something
Bayesian. Unless I'm missing something.
Chris
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 8:40 AM, Jose Marcos Ferraro <
jose.ferraro at logiteng.com> wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bert Gunter [mailto:bgunter.4567 at gmail.com]
> Sent: quinta-feira, 31 de março de 2016 20:22
> To: Jose Marcos Ferraro <jose.ferraro at LOGITeng.com>
> Cc: r-help at r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R] reduced set of alternatives in package mlogit
>
> code? example data? We can only guess based on your vague post.
>
> "PLEASE do read the posting guide
> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code."
>
> Moreover, this sounds like a statistical question, not a question about R
> programming, and so might be more appropriate for a statistical list like
> stats.stackexchange.com .
>
> Cheers,
> Bert
>
>
> Bert Gunter
>
> "The trouble with having an open mind is that people keep coming along and
> sticking things into it."
> -- Opus (aka Berkeley Breathed in his "Bloom County" comic strip )
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Jose Marcos Ferraro <
> jose.ferraro at logiteng.com> wrote:
> > I'm trying to estimate a multinomial logit model but in some choices
> only alternatives from a subset of all possible alternatives can be chosen.
> > At the moment I get around it by creating "dummy" variables to mean the
> alternative is not available and let it estimate this coefficient as highly
> negative. Is there a better way to do it?
> >
>
> Sorry if I was not clear enough, but there is hardly any code to show.
> The problem is that a parameter or function is lacking (or , mostly
> likely, I can't find it), so in some sense the problem itself is that
> there is no code to show.
>
> In what follows choice situations , alternatives, wide, and variables have
> the same meaning that they have on the mlogit documentation. All variables
> are alternative specific.
>
> 1)I want to estimate a multinomial Logit using the mlogit package
>
> 2)I have a dataset, made of choice situations
>
> 3)There is a set of alternatives
>
> 4)in some choice situations, not all alternatives were available, but only
> a subset of them. So there are no variables for the unavailable
> alternatives and the chosen alternative evidently belongs to the set of
> available ones.
>
> 5)I use mlogit.data to prepare the dataset from a "wide" dataframe . There
> is no option to have only a subset of alternatives and the resulting object
> will have them all , that is, there will be a line for every alternative
> and every choice situation, even if in reality some of them were not
> available. The variables of these alternatives did not exist, so must be
> filled with 0s or any other made up value
>
> 6) If ones estimate a model from this data it will be wrong
>
> 7) It is possible to get an "almost right" model by using a dummy variable
> marking which alternatives are unavailable, for as it is only used in
> alternatives that are never chosen, its coefficient will get negative with
> big absolute value, in practice giving almost 0% probability for them
>
> 8)this is a workaround because it obligates the model to estimate a number
> that should be -infinity and this is known in advance, so it's ugly and
> difficult to know what the numeric consequences are as the coefficient can
> never converge. In fact, I don't use it the way I described for these
> reasons, preferring a more complex but almost equivalent formulation. The
> important point is that I want a clean solution, not a workaround
>
> 9)I demand simply if mlogit package has such functionality
>
>
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