[R] Announcement - The Use Of Nabble For Posting To R-Help Will No Longer Be Supported Effective October 15, 2015

[John McKown]

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On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 5:55 AM, Marc Schwartz <marc_schwartz at me.com> wrote:

> Greetings all,
>
> On behalf of The R Foundation for Statistical Computing, this is an
> announcement that, effective October 15, 2015, the Nabble online forums
> will no longer be a supported vehicle for posting new threads and/or
> replying to existing threads on R-Help.
>
> This decision was not made lightly and is the result of issues that have
> developed over the past several years. These issues include:
>
> 1. The lack of any context for thread-replies in posts submitted via
> Nabble. This compels readers to take extra time to click on a link in the
> post and visit the Nabble web site to read the reply in context. Many
> email-based R-Help users do not take the time to do this, and therefore do
> not reply to Nabble-based posts.
>
> 2. The use of Nabble by a number of folks who have not subscribed to the R
> email lists directly. Since subscriptions to the R email lists are required
> for posting, these posts are held for moderation, which results in a
> substantial increase in the workload of the **volunteer** list moderators.
> The moderators must take additional time to log into the administrative web
> site interfaces for the R lists to manually review, and approve or reject,
> posts submitted via Nabble.
>
> 3. An increasing level of both publicly and privately expressed animosity
> and frustration on the R lists towards Nabble-based posts because of the
> above and related issues.
>
> Over the past several months, the R Foundation, in cooperation with
> Nabble, has incrementally removed the ability of multiple Nabble archives
> to post new threads on the R email lists, respond to existing threads, and
> privately reply to authors via the Nabble web site.
>
> R-Help, because it is the highest volume of the R lists, is the last R
> email list to undergo this transition. We are announcing the change two
> weeks in advance to afford Nabble users the opportunity to directly
> subscribe to and use the R email-based support lists in the manner
> originally intended.
>
> Information on the various R email lists, including R-Help, is available
> here:
>
>  https://www.r-project.org/mail.html
>
> The existing relevant Nabble archives will become just that -- read only
> and searchable archives -- as a valuable alternative to other R email list
> archives that are available online.
>
> We wish to express our sincere thanks to Hugo Teixeira at Nabble for his
> assistance over the past several months in this process.
>
> For those folks who prefer to use a web-based interface for R-related
> support matters, as opposed to email-based interactions, StackOverflow, as
> one example, provides such a vehicle at:
>
>  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/r
>
> For those who have general statistical support queries, as per the R
> Posting Guide, StackExchange/Cross Validated at:
>
>  http://stats.stackexchange.com
>
> provides a similar platform.
>
> The R Foundation does not support or endorse the above third-party
> resources, but is simply mentioning them as popular, web-based alternatives
> to the R email lists, which remain our recommended vehicles for focused
> community support for R.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Marc Schwartz
> On Behalf of the R Foundation for Statistical Computing
>
> ______________________________________________
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> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
> PLEASE do read the posting guide
> http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html
> and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
>



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