[R] Course and book announcements on r-help

[Martin Maechler]

>>>>> Spencer Graves <spencer.graves at prodsyse.com>
>>>>>     on Sat, 14 Mar 2015 10:02:46 -0700 writes:

    >        While answering a question, I believe it's
    > acceptable (even encouraged) to cite a relevant book, even
    > if it's yours ;-)

    >        Spencer

Definitely, Spencer.  
I was talking about explicit announcements.

Martin

    > On 3/14/2015 9:53 AM, Martin Maechler wrote:
    >>>>>>> John Kane <jrkrideau at inbox.com> on Fri, 13 Mar 2015
    >>>>>>> 06:16:19 -0800 writes:
    >> > I have the feeling that this was discussed 3-4 years
    >> ago > and the overall opinion seems to be that if the
    >> course or > book was relevant then it was acceptable on
    >> an occasional > basis. No spamming-type or mass selling
    >> posts were.  > John Kane Kingston ON Canada
    >> 
    >> Your feeling is pretty good.  At the time -- and still
    >> today -- we did not want to impose rigid rules about
    >> this.  As host and principal maintainer of the
    >> R-*@r-project.org mailing list, my current view is as
    >> follows:
    >> 
    >> * Books:
    >> 
    >> Should typically *not* be announced on R-help for the
    >> following reasons.
    >> 
    >> a) The R web page lists books which deal with R as a
    >> major theme.  (http://www.r-project.org/ sidebar
    >> 'Documentation' -> 'Books' ==>
    >> http://www.r-project.org/doc/bib/R-books.html). All R
    >> Core and some other R Foundation members can edit the
    >> underlying *.bib source file in R-docs; historically 95%
    >> of that work has been done by Kurt Hornik and Fritz
    >> Leisch.  b) Books just using R to solve a certain problem
    >> abound nowadays and should defintely *not* be announced
    >> as globally as by using R-help.
    >> 
    >> * Course announcements:
    >> 
    >> You may announce a course "series" once if it's new *and*
    >> globally accessible online.  All other courses should be
    >> announced in local R user groups, or similar forums.
    >> 
    >> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
    >> 
    >> And because it's the weekend:
    >> 
    >> Motto:
    >> 
    >> We humans live much better with guidelines by responsibly
    >> applying good judgement.  It's only the (digital)
    >> machines that need strict unambigous rules.  Let the AI
    >> programmers deal with them and remain human ourselves!
    >> 
    >> (inspired by Haim Harari's thoughts in
    >> http://edge.org/response-detail/26056)
    >> 
    >> 
    >> Best regards, Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich and R Core
    >> 
    >> 
    >> >> -----Original Message----- From: >>
    >> wolfgang.viechtbauer at maastrichtuniversity.nl Sent: Fri,
    >> >> 13 Mar 2015 10:26:04 +0100 To: r-help at r-project.org >>
    >> Subject: [R] Course and book announcements on r-help
    >> >>
    >> >> Dear All,
    >> >>
    >> >> Just wondering: Is there any official policy on >>
    >> announcing R-related courses and books on r-help?
    >> >>
    >> >> I didn't find anything on this in the posting guide,
    >> but >> http://www.r-project.org/mail.html#instructions
    >> says that >> r-help is, among other things, for
    >> "announcements (not >> covered by 'R-announce' or
    >> 'R-packages', see >> above)". That sounds a bit like this
    >> would cover courses >> and books, but I am not
    >> sure. Obviously, R-announce is >> not meant for that, as
    >> it is "for major announcements >> about the development
    >> of R and the availability of new >> code" and is to be
    >> used "for announcements mainly by the >> R Core
    >> Development Team".
    >> >>
    >> >> I see the occasional course/book announcement, but it
    >> >> seems to me that there are a lot more courses and
    >> books >> out there compared to how many announcements
    >> there are >> related to them on this mailing list. So, I
    >> am wondering >> if such announcements are somewhat
    >> implicitly >> discouraged.
    >> >>
    >> >> Best, Wolfgang
    >> >>
    >> >> --
    >> >> Wolfgang Viechtbauer, Ph.D., Statistician Department
    >> of >> Psychiatry and Psychology School for Mental Health
    >> and >> Neuroscience Faculty of Health, Medicine, and Life
    >> >> Sciences Maastricht University, P.O. Box 616 (VIJV1)
    >> 6200 >> MD Maastricht, The Netherlands +31 (43) 388-4170
    >> | >> http://www.wvbauer.com
    >> 
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