[R] Struggeling with svydesign()
ONKELINX, Thierry
Thierry.ONKELINX at inbo.be
Thu Apr 8 15:41:29 CEST 2010
Dear Thomas,
Thank you for your informative answer. We used epi.stratasize() to
estimate the required sample size per stratum. Notice in the example
below that it can select a sample size smaller than 2 in the very small
strata. Would you recommend to sample at least two items per stratum or
rather to merge some strata a priori until the sample size is at least
2? Or is there a better way to estimate the sample size per stratum?
Note that the stratification only aims to get a good geographical
coverage (the strata a geographical regions). We are not interested in
estimates per stratum.
library(epiR)
N <- c(39, 270, 1060, 1336, 118, 26, 154, 10, 3)
epi.stratasize(strata.n = N, strata.mean = 0.9, epsilon = 0.05, method =
"proportion")
$strata.sample
[1] 2 15 57 72 6 1 8 1 0
$total.sample
[1] 162
The probability of sampling was proportional with the area (larger
polygons are more likely to be selected than smaller ones). So we will
use weights = I(1/Area), as you suggested.
Best regards,
Thierry
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> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Thomas Lumley [mailto:tlumley op u.washington.edu]
> Verzonden: woensdag 7 april 2010 18:51
> Aan: ONKELINX, Thierry
> CC: r-help op r-project.org
> Onderwerp: Re: [R] Struggeling with svydesign()
>
> On Wed, 7 Apr 2010, ONKELINX, Thierry wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We are analysing some survey data and we are not sure if we
> are using
> > the correct syntax for our design.
> >
> > The population of interest is a set of 4416 polygons with different
> > sizes ranging from 0.003 to 45.6 ha, 7460 ha in total. Each polygon
> > has a binary attribute (presence/absence) and we want to
> estimate the
> > probability of presence in the population.
> >
> > We used sampling with replacement weighted by the area of
> the polygon.
> > The population was stratified using 2 variables: block and
> type. Each
> > of the 14 blocks is a 20 by 50 km geographical region. Type
> is a two
> > level factor. Not every level is present in each block.
> Each block has
> > a Status attribute with two levels: medium (9 blocks) or
> good (5 blocks).
> > Besides the overall ratio, we would like the estimate the ratio per
> > Status.
> > The samplesize per stratum was calculated with
> epi.stratasize() from
> > the epiR package. The population size in the 21 strata
> ranges from 1
> > to 1158. The sample size ranges from 0 in the blocks with very few
> > polygons (<20), 1 in blocks with a low number of polygon
> (20 - 50) and
> > up to 25 polygons in the largest strata.
>
> That sounds strange. If you have a stratified sample and
> have set the sample size in some strata to be zero, you
> cannot possibly learn anything about those strata and so you
> can't get unbiased population estimates. In order to get
> unbiased estimates and valid standard errors you need at
> least two samples per stratum.
>
> You're going to have to combine some of the strata so that
> each stratum has at least two observations. Since your
> design only makes sense if you assume the small, unsampled,
> strata are similar to some of the larger strata, it should be
> possible for you to combine them.
>
>
> > Does the syntax below represents the data structure above? Any
> > comments are welcome.
> >
> > library(survey)
> > svydesign(
> > id = ~ 1, #no clustering
> > weights = ~ Area, #weighted by the area of the polygon
> > strata = ~ Status + Block + Type,
> > nest = TRUE
> > )
>
> You want strata = ~interaction(Block,Type,drop=TRUE), which
> specifies a single stage of sampling in which the strata are
> combinations of Block and Type. The fact that you need
> drop=TRUE is a bug, which I will fix.
>
> > # Is Area a correct weighting factor? Or should we use the area
> > divided by the sum of the total area (per stratum?)
>
> It's not clear to me from your description whether the
> probability of sampling a particular region is proportional
> to its Area or inversely proportional to its Area. If the
> probability is proportional to Area, the weight would be 1/Area
>
> svydesign(
> id = ~ 1, #no clustering
> weights = ~ I(1/Area), #weighted by the area of the polygon
> strata = ~ interaction(Block, Type,drop=TRUE),
> nest = TRUE
> )
>
>
> > # The code above runs. But when we omit "Status" from the
> strata, then
> > we get an error: "a stratum has only 1 PSU". Shouldn't we
> get the same
> > error with the code above?
> >
> > #with finity population correction
> > svydesign(
> > id = ~ 1, #no clustering
> > weights = ~ Area, #weighted by the area of the polygon
> > strata = ~ Status + Block + Type,
> > fpc ~ nStatus + nBlock + nType,
> > nest = TRUE
> > )
> > #We are not sure what to use for nStatus, nBlock and nType.
> Is it the
> > number of levels of that stratum (nStatus = 2)? The number
> of levels
> > in the stratum below (nStatus = length(unique(Block)) per level of
> > Status, nType = number of polygons per Status:Block:Type)?
> The total
> > number of polygons in that stratum?
>
> This is easier when you get the right strata. There should
> be a single fpc variable, which should be equal to the number
> of polygons in the population for that stratum.
>
>
> > To call in the statistician after the experiment is done may be no
> > more than asking him to perform a post-mortem examination:
> he may be
> > able to say what the experiment died of.
> > ~ Sir Ronald Aylmer Fisher
>
> Indeed.
>
>
> -thomas
>
> Thomas Lumley Assoc. Professor, Biostatistics
> tlumley op u.washington.edu University of Washington, Seattle
>
>
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