[R] Proper / Improper scoring Rules

Donald Catanzaro, PhD don.catanzaro.ccm at gmail.com
Thu Aug 13 08:04:13 CEST 2009


Hi All,

I have done more background research (including Frank's book) so I feel 
that my second question is answered.  However, as a novice R user I 
still have the following problem, accessing the output of predict.  So 
simplifying my question, using the example provided in the Design 
package 
(http://lib.stat.cmu.edu/S/Harrell/help/Design/html/predict.lrm.html) I 
might do something like:

> # See help for predict.Design for several binary logistic
> # regression examples
> 
> # Examples of predictions from ordinal models
> set.seed(1)
> y <- factor(sample(1:3, 400, TRUE), 1:3, c('good','better','best'))
> x1 <- runif(400)
> x2 <- runif(400)
> f <- lrm(y ~ rcs(x1,4)*x2)
> predict(f, type="fitted.ind")[1:10,]   #gets Prob(better) and all others
      y=good  y=better    y=best
1  0.3124704 0.3631544 0.3243752
2  0.3676075 0.3594685 0.2729240
3  0.2198274 0.3437416 0.4364309
4  0.3063463 0.3629658 0.3306879
5  0.5171323 0.3136088 0.1692590
6  0.3050115 0.3629071 0.3320813
7  0.3532452 0.3612928 0.2854620
8  0.2933928 0.3621220 0.3444852
9  0.3068595 0.3629867 0.3301538
10 0.6214710 0.2612164 0.1173126
> d <- data.frame(x1=.5,x2=.5)
> predict(f, d, type="fitted")        # Prob(Y>=j) for new observation
y>=better   y>=best 
0.6906593 0.3275849 
> predict(f, d, type="fitted.ind")    # Prob(Y=j)
   y=good  y=better    y=best 
0.3093407 0.3630744 0.3275849 


So now if I wanted to do

> out <- predict(f, d, type="fitted.ind")> 

> out

   y=good  y=better    y=best 

0.3093407 0.3630744 0.3275849 

> out$"y=better"

Error in out$"y=better" : $ operator is invalid for atomic vectors

> 


y=better is the max, so how do I create something that says that ? 
(which is not exactly what I want to do but close enough to help me 
figure out what R code I need to accomplish the task)

I can push the predictions out to a vector:

out.vector <- as.vector(predict(f, d, type="fitted.ind"))

> out.vector

[1] 0.3093407 0.3630744 0.3275849


which gets me part of the way because I can find out max(out.vector) but 
I still need to know what column the max is in. I think the problem is 
that I don't know how to manipulate data frames and vectors in R and 
need some guidance

-Don 

Don Catanzaro, PhD                  
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dgcatanzaro at gmail.com
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Frank E Harrell Jr wrote:
> Donald Catanzaro, PhD wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am working on some ordinal logistic regresssions using LRM in the 
>> Design package.  My response variable has three categories (1,2,3) 
>> and after using the creating my model and using a call to predict 
>> some values and I wanted to use a simple .5 cut-off to classify my 
>> probabilities into the categories.
>>
>> I had two questions:
>>
>> a)  first, I am having trouble directly accessing the probabilities 
>> which may have more to do with my lack of experience with R
>>
>> For instance, my calls
>>
>>  >ologit.three.NoPerFor <- lrm(Threshold.Three ~ TECI , data=CLD, 
>> na.action=na.pass)
>>  >CLD$Threshold.Predict.Three.NoPerFor<- 
>> predict(ologit.three.NoPerFor, newdata=CLD, type="fitted.ind") 
>>  >CLD$Threshold.Predict.Three.NoPerFor.Cats[CLD$Threshold.Predict.Three.NoPerFor.Threshold.Three=1 
>>  > .5] <- 1
>> Error: unexpected '=' in 
>> "CLD$Threshold.Predict.Three.NoPerFor.Cats[CLD$Threshold.Predict.Three.NoPerFor.Threshold.Three=" 
>>
>>  >
>>  >
>>
>> produce an error message and it seems as R does not like the equal 
>> sign at all.  So how does one access the probabilities so I can 
>> classify them into the categories of 1,2,3 so I can look at 
>> performance of my model ?
>
> use == to check equality
>
>>
>> b)  which leads me to my next question.  I thought that simply 
>> calculating the percent correct off of my predictions would be 
>> sufficient to look at performance but since my question is very much 
>> in line with this thread 
>> http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/e4/help/08/04/8987.html I am not so 
>> sure anymore.  I am afraid I did not understand Frank Harrell's last 
>> suggestion regarding improper scoring rule - can someone point me to 
>> some internet resources that I might be able to review to see why my 
>> approach would not be valid ?
>
> Percent correct will give you misleading answers and is game-able.  It 
> is also ultra-high-variance.  Though not a truly proper scoring rule, 
> Somers' Dxy rank correlation (generalization of ROC area) is helpful. 
> Better still: use the log-likelihood and related quantities (deviance, 
> adequacy index as described in my book).
>
> Frank
>
>>
>>
>
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