[R] Permutation test, grouped data
Tom Backer Johnsen
backer at psych.uib.no
Fri Nov 2 22:07:43 CET 2007
Brian S Cade wrote:
> Tom: Paul Mielke, emeritus professor at Colorado State University,
> probably has some of the most efficient Fortran programs for enumerating
> all possible permutations of small sample sizes for grouped comparisons
> and Monte Carlo random sampling of the possible permutations for larger
> group sizes. The Fortran source code is available off his CSU Statistics
> Department web page. The code is for Mielke's multiresponse permutation
> procedures (MRPP), which includes permutation versions of ANOVA or t-tests
> as a special case.
Thank you very much, it may be just what I need. I have just
downloaded the source and started looking at them. I'll have to look
for a Fortran compiler as well.
Alternatively, we've implemented Mielke's code into
> our Blossom statistical package, which provides a more user friendly front
> end and output than Mielke's programs. This is available at
> http://www.fort.usgs.gov/Products/Software/blossom/
The main point is that I would like to include the algorithm into my
own somewhat dedicated code, currently written in Object Pascal,
(Delphi), but I plan to port the code to some open source variant.
> My experience with implementing similar permutation tests in software like
> R or S-Plus that are optimal for vector computations is that they will
> never be as fast as the looping structures that are implemented in the
> Fortran programs. And when you are talking about enumerating all
> possible permutations, speed becomes a very limiting factor. Mielke's
> code will easily do complete enumeration of 2 groups of n=12 ( 2,704,156
> possible combination) in 10 seconds or so (on Windows XP with 2GB memory)
> and 2 groups of n =13 (10,400,600 possible combinations) should still be
> not unreasonable.
That is really impressive!
Tom
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> Brian
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> Brian S. Cade
>
> U. S. Geological Survey
> Fort Collins Science Center
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> email: brian_cade at usgs.gov
> tel: 970 226-9326
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> Tom Backer Johnsen <backer at psych.uib.no>
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> I am perfectly aware that this question is not an R question, at least
> not yet, but I have not succeeded in finding what I want in other
> ways, so ...
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> What I am looking for are two algorithms, preferabley in Pascal, but
> other languages may do. For (a) systematic (complete) permutations
> for grouped data with unequal group sizes, and (b) random permutations
> for the same kind of data. I know of one source: E. S. Edgington
> (1980): Randomization Tests (program 4.1 and program 4.3), but those
> are written in Fortran with a lot of GO TO's which probably would not
> be very efficient even if I managed to manually these programs and do
> a correct translation. There must be some more modern ones around,
> but where?
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> I need the algorithms for a program I have written for exploring
> structural balance in sociometric group structures.
>
> Tom
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