[R] GAMs under R?
Bill Venables
Bill.Venables at cmis.csiro.au
Mon May 1 07:49:07 CEST 2000
At 06:09 AM 5/1/00 +0100, Prof Brian D Ripley wrote:
>On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Stephen R. Laniel wrote:
>
>> I was just now surprised to note that functions to go generalized additive
>> models don't appear to exist under R 1.000. In particular, the gam() and
>> loess() functions aren't there. Are they hidden somewhere and I just
>> haven't noticed?
>
>loess: yes, and it's not really hidden. It is in standard package modreg.
>It does not do `generalized additive models' though, even under S.
>(The R implementation is a little less general than that in S.)
>
>gam(): no, it is not there. Look at the original code to see one reason
>why: it is highly convoluted and not at all well documented. I think
>additive models have been greatly over-sold in certain statistical circles,
>but if you want to use them for least-squares fitting, try bruto (in
>package mda on CRAN) instead as at least that makes a sensible attempt to
>choose the smoothness of the variable transformations.
The restriction "for least-squares fitting" is crucial. bruto is a form of
additive model fitting, not *generalized* additive model fitting. If you
have to deal with binomial, poisson, .... models it doesn't help much.
>
>I wonder why you were surprised? See section 5.6 of the FAQ:
>
> 5.6 How can I contribute to R?
> ==============================
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>[...]
>
> One place where functionality is still missing is the modeling
> software as described in "Statistical Models in S" (see *Note What is
> S?::); Generalized Additive Models (*gam*) and some of the nonlinear
> modeling code are not there yet.
>
>which shows we are still waiting for a volunteer (hint, hint).
But the effort required should not be under-estimated and the need for a
*good* implementation is pretty strict. A mediocre or worse implementation
is in many ways worse than useless and even dangerous. This looks like a
pretty interesting component of an Honours project in Statistics, if some
student is interested in computations and penalized estimation.
>--
>Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk
>Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/
>University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self)
>1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr)
>Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
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